IMPORTANT: Significant policy change at Dominick's
You guys aren't going to like this one... but it does change how we all shop at Dominick's, so it needs to be noted.
Dominick's has changed their policy on minimum purchases for "Super Coupons." You'll remember that the old policy stated that the $10 or $20 minimums were based on the regular, non-sale, non-Fresh Values prices of the products:
What does "minimum $10 (or $20) purchase required" mean? To use store coupons that include a minimum purchase requirement, you must spend a minimum dollar amount on that shopping trip. You will reach the minimum purchase amount based upon total purchases before your Club Card discount is applied. This total will include the coupon item's regular price, not the discounted price. For example,the regular retail price of a box of Cheerios (before coupon and before Club Card discounts) will count toward the minimum purchase required in order to use the Cheerios coupon.
Got that? Now look at the new policy on Dominick's site:
What does "minimum $10 (or $20) purchase required" mean? To use store coupons that include a minimum purchase requirement, you must spend a minimum dollar amount on that shopping trip. You will reach the minimum purchase amount based upon total purchases after your Club Card discount is applied. For example, the regular retail price of a box of Cheerios (after Club Card discounts) will count toward the minimum purchase required in order to use the Cheerios coupon.
Dominick's... this is no way to improve on your already-tenuous relationship with your shoppers.











On Thursday, I went to
On Thursday, I went to Dominick's for probably the second time ever, after living in Chicagoland for almost five years. This time I went because I had some catalinas from Jewel and Walgreens that expired a few months ago, and I decided to try using them at Dominick's on one of the rare occasions that I would be near one (the store on Cicero Ave., south of Midway). The cashier rang up all my items, and I handed over the coupons. The first thing she said that was that she couldn't take the Walgreens ones because they were not for a specific item, that they can take coupons from Walgreens for specific items but not for $ off an order. I told her that that was not what the policy I had heard and asked if she could check. She grudgingly did, and came back with the answer that she could take one, and it says that one the back. (Actually, what it says on the back is "one per purchase," so the store is clearly confused on that terminology, based on the reports of many here.) So, I picked the highest value cat ($7) and told her to void off everything except $7 worth; I explained that I was only buying the stuff assuming the coupons would be accepted. She sighed and called the supervisor and said, "Now she wants me to void off stuff." She then decided to just void the whole transaction and said to divide it up in transactions small enough to use one catalina per transaction. Which I did. However, this whole process took a lot of time. It wasted my time and the cashier's time, and I'm sure other customers in line behind me had better things to do. In the end, I bought all the same stuff and used all the same coupons that I would have otherwise, so why does Dominick's insist on doing things in the most inconvenient way possible? If they are hoping that couponers will be the ones to change, I don't think that's going to happen. Couponers are tough cookies, and most will eventually just move on to the Jewel down the road, where the deals are plentiful and corp cares about their customers (including couponers). It also left a bad taste in my mouth that 1 of the 2 apples I got was inedible because it had black spots throughout (looked fine on the outside).
Dominicks
I guess they really just want to go out of business!?
Is anyone shopping Dom's this
Is anyone shopping Dom's this week? With all their problems lately and that Catalina blitz at Jewel, there really isn't much reason to is there?
P&G
If you need cleaning products, the P&G deals outlined under this week's Deals are very good there, as many of them use expired coupons -- something we won't be able to do at Jewel when their P&G deal comes.
Other than that...?
Took out the Jewel and Meijer flyers ...
Dom's went in the recycling with the rest of the bundle ... with nary a 2nd glance.
Thanks, Jewel Stores!!!
Dominicks, who??
All I have to say is I LOVE JEWEL. I love that they are friendly and helpful. I love that they accept my coupons without attitude. I love that they work with couponers, they hear us. They reward us with great new programs. Yes, don't we all love YOUR BUCKS!! So, we may have our issues with Dominicks, but it sure makes me thankful to have JEWEL!!
Taking the whole IP issue to another level...
I had a cashier try to tell me yesterday that I couldn't use my IP because I already had a discount on that item from an e-coupon. I told her I could, but she had to check with someone else who confirmed I was right. She was completely surprised that I could do that and then annoyed when my order came to .54 for my package of Yoplait Delights.
My relationship with Dom's has to stop. I keep giving them chances and for awhile things go ok, then I get a hassle. This kind of relationship isn't healthy, so I'm done. I didn't even look at the flyer for this coming week, I have no interest.
I'm done with Dominicks
After ready the disclosure statement, it still didn't address that the "purchase requirement" is even after all your coupons. I just got off the phone with Customer Service because my "$25 minimum purchase" came to $32 before coupons. I figured great I'm in the clear. Nope, after deducting my coupons my purchase was only $17 which didn't qualify for the $10 catalina. I will never step foot in Dominicks again!
Differing Doms
It's funny how diff each store is though. . . . my hubby went out last night for the P&G cat deal, and she typed in one of his Q's as "grocery" when it wouldn't scan and DH didn't catch it till later. . . . . but when the cat didn't print he asked about it- she added up the reciept prices (before Q's) saw that it was over the required amount and gave him a $10 from the office- No problems.
Even though we have a great doms as far as Q's- I hate that they're all so different and you never really know what you're going to get- or how much of a fight you're going to have!
Where did some of the Dominick's money go?
To Kmart! Where they take (and often DOUBLE) coupons. And how was
Kmart rewarded?
With their best quarterly profit in 3 years! In spite of recent store closings. Hmmm...go figure.
http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/02/sears-profit-more-than-do...
Dominicks Christmas Butter
I just read the blog and someone mentioned expired products. I didn't check to see if it was expired but I was in the Buffalo Grove Dominicks and saw a Christmas Tree made out of butter on the shelf. It was less than 8 oz and the shelf price was $4.59 approx... Who is going to buy a Butter Christmas tree in February? Can anyone think of how we can incorporate the christmas tree along with the butter lamb for easter? What about Passover? St Patricks Day- corned beef, cabbage and christmas butter?
Oh my.
Okay, that has to be one of the funniest out-of-date products I've EVER heard of. It's a shame I will not be in that area teaching this week... I would be tempted to stop in there just to see that!
butter tree
And, why didn't it ever go to clearance or butter tree heaven!
Goodbye, Dominicks!
Hmmmm. I thought Dominick's was trying to get more of our business. This would probably happen if they did a couple simple things:
1)Make a simple, well-liked coupon policy that all cashiers are informed of.
2)Change the minimum purchase requirement back to the previous policy.
3)Listen to the feedback from shoppers on this site.
Bye Bye Dominicks
Well, at least for the stores where is there competition I cannot see how they are going to stay in business. I know the stores in Crystal Lake, Algonquin, and C'ville are never crowded. There is obviously a problem not just with couponers. I find it amusing that their response wanted to seperate the customer service issues from the coupon policy since the majority of our customer service issues did not arise until we took out our coupons. However, there was information in the blog about spoiled products and staff that are reluctant to help when we are shopping that seemed to be discounted.
I think there are some Dom stores that are doing okay especially those in Chicago where many of their customers walk - captive audience.
I'd love to know more about the coupon by the pound versus claiming the value plus .08. Has anyone mentioned here how Jewel or Meijer does the coupon claiming? If that business decision is what is driving their coupon policy, I think they need to review that decision. Perhaps they are in a long term contract that is cost prohibitive to break?
Regardless, I feel like they solicited our feedback to see how we work coupons and write a policy so that we would NOT be able to shop there. With such a complex process, I'm surprised they are even still taking coupons.
If they want to be like Joseph's who doesn't even take IP coupons, then they need to do something about having a unique product line.
Something is broke with Dom's and it starts at the top. I do find it surprising that the staff have been brainwashed into thinkng that we are doing something wrong. If I was a cashier and saw the deals that we were getting, I'd be trying to figure out how to get a piece of that action especially since they don't make a ton of money!
My biggest concern is that when Doms fails (notice when not if), will we see stores like Meijer and Jewel change how they handle coupons? There was a recent article in the paper about how Jewel was laying off 120+ managers at the stores as a cost cutting measure...
I would like to see Jill dump the Dom's deals - seems like a wasted effort on her part when the majority of us are not going to take advantage of it no matter how good of a deal we see. If there is a good deal in the printed paper, I'll take it Walmart to price match. I vote to see Butera in the blog. They have been running some awesome deals of late and seemed coupon friendly enough my most recent trip last Friday. There is a store I had not gone to in years! The most recent ad caught my eye with cheap milk and butter so I found another blog that listed more deals with the matches and my list became longer and longer.
For now, I'll just wait for the going out of business sale...
Does walmart price match?
Really? At the cashier level? Never tried..
Yes.
Just show the current ad with the item before the cashier rings it up (I keep these items in a separate section of my cart). This does not work with preferred-type/loyalty deals, only regular, plain old advertised sale prices.
Price match
I'm not sure when this changed, but they do honor preferred discounts now! It's so funny I just came here to find the link so I could tell my sister (she had a falling out with their only Walgreen's!)
From their website: >>We do honor "Preferred Shopping Card" advertised prices. Must be like items, be advertised and require a competitor's shopping card, for the discount to apply.<<
Wow, thanks!
I will have to try that. It was just a couple months ago I tried to get a preferred price from a Jewel ad not even thinking that it would not be acceptable. When they told me they did not accept preferred prices, I understood why, but it also knocked out more than half the competition!
I'd print it
I am going to save myself a trip to Jewel, and try to price match the Hunt's ketchup when I go to Wal-Mart for a new printer tomorrow.
http://walmartstores.com/7659.aspx
Wal-Mart Price Match
I hadn't heard they don't honor preferred prices before. The only ones they have been picky on with me are the Walgreen's ads when it's a "coupon" price. Those they tell me they will not honor. They also do not honor percentage off sales.
I have found of late that often I bring in my ads for price compete and they already lowered the price to a few cents below the other ad price. But it's always good to have your ads just in case.
Of late, it's not often I do have to price compete because Walmart doesn't do the Catalina deals and those seem to be on fire.
I did it today
I did a Preferred Card price match with the Jewel ad today. The Wal-Mart website says they do it with the ad and your preferred card. They never asked to see my card. Showed the ad and they verified it was the same size ketchup and made the adjustment.
Dom's convoluted Q policy
Haven't been a fan of Dom's since they closed their McHenry store. They left expired dairy on the shelves to sell, jacked up their prices and turned off the heat. Reluctantly, I tried Crystal Lake when they had that huge Cat deal last spring but the pricing was soooo confusing, I needed a margarita by the time I finished. Jill, I applaud your business sense in seeing the need to create sound competition, but you can't help a company that will not help itself. They have in fact gone out of their way to make it difficult to shop in their stores. I'm w/ the rest of your bloggers: Dominick's who?
I noticed the changes at
I noticed the changes at Dom's today, and they're not for the better.
I had a few items (had to use my $10 q I got last week) and q's of course. She rang everything through and then checked every IP I had to see if it was the 50% or more. She had to take the item, find it on the screen and then do the math in her head. It took FOREVER. By now we had a nice long line going. She refused one of my q's for yogurt (didn't understand why, but by now I wasn't going to argue over .50) so I told her to take it off. The register wouldn't let her, so we had to unbag EVERYTHING and re-ring it. She then told me that they just had a big meeting about coupons because so many people are using them now and that they really have to be careful about what they accept or they can get in trouble. She also told me that if I had any coupons that would make items free, she couldn't accept them.
What a way to win over customers Dominick's!
Shareholder's meeting
I picture karma as Jill owning a share of Dom's (I guess Safeway) stock just so she can let all the other shareholders know how corporate is killing business.
Crossed my mind
Actually, that thought has crossed my mind (buying stock so I could have a voice at a shareholders' conference.)
However, that would necessitate me spending money ON Safeway stock. And buying one $23 share is still probably not going to get me much of a voice :)
I agree
The real "losers" in this whole scenario are the shareholders and the employees (yes even the crabby, rude ones). Safeway has a fiduciary obligation to protect its shareholders investment. The very idea that they are selling their coupons by the pound rather than seeking a full reimbursement is a breach of that duty. I don't know and haven't been able to find out, what the "going rate" per pound for the sale of coupons is. But, logic would dictate that it is less than the full value of the coupons contained in each pound.
Let's just pretend that we really are the only 400 people who care about this issue (that's a big pretend Dom's!!)
On average each of most likely redeemed no less than 5 of the $4 Gillette Razor coupons. Had they all been redeemed at Dominick's it would look like this:
400 x 5 = 2,000 coupons x 4.08 (reimbursement rate) = $8,160.00
Over $8,100 for just ONE COUPON!! We all know there are many, many more high value coupons out there (the buy Swiffer get Refill for free comes to mind - The liquid refills run around $8. If you ran the same scenario with those coupons that is over $16,000!!)
It is completely inconceivable to think that by selling their coupons by the pound that they are getting back a full return. THAT is a huge contributing factor to where their profits are going.
You can't pay $X for an item, have a coupon redeemed for $X and then not go through the steps to get your original $X back in order to achieve a profit. You will (and as we know) ARE actually losing money. NOT because the manufacturer issued that coupon, not because the consumer redeemed that coupon, but because you chose not to seek your full reimbursement for it!
It is sad to think that Dominick's would put its employees in a position where they will probably very soon be facing a reduction in force because the staff outnumber the customers. That people who bought shares of what USED to be a grocery industry giant will see their investment dry up and blow away like tumbleweeds in a Dominick's parking lot.
Dom's=masochism
The dictionary's definition of masochism? Pleasure in being humiliated! You know where I'm going with this... not to DOM'S!
One Per Day??
Where is it written that you may only use one catalina per day? Did I miss something or has this happened to anyone else? Seems they make the rules up as they go. BOYCOTT!!
They just don't get it
I find it sadly amusing that in one breath they say "we value the opinions of couponers and of a blog that reaches tons of couponers- we're listening" and in the next breath they seem to almost intentionally alienate those same customers. It's bad enough we haven't seen positive changes to reflect that they're hearing our concerns but to make backwards changes is just proof that they have no consistent corporate policy for customer retention.
My mom used a Wags cat at Dom's the other day and was told one per transaction (fine, she expected that)- and the cashier told her that that was "for now- but we're going to be changing all of our coupon policies b/c we're not making any money on these stupid things" My mom decided not to argue the fact that they would be reimbursed for the coupon, and that it was in fact their coupon policy that was helping to keep shoppers from stepping foot in their doors, etc. I actually feel kinda bad for the cashiers and lower level managers though- they have clearly been told that their jobs may be in jeopardy if the company doesn't start doing better and yet it's the higher ups at corporate making these decisions to alienate their consumers.
In a day and age where consumers have so many choices (as evidenced in their own reports) and are in general being very money conscious it is a very poor corporate strategy to alienate such a large consumer base by continually altering your coupon policies for the worse. All we asked for is a simple and consistent coupon policy that is enforced by employees who understand the policies and understand basic customer service. Apparently that was too much to ask for.
More and more of us
are becoming educated about the retail grocery way of shopping using strategy....something our mothers didn't use nor did they teach us. NOW we are learning an alternative way. How do these retail chains manage the auto pilot shopper and the wiser bargain hunter shopper in the same check out lane??? By keeping policies inconsistent? Maybe Doms thinks it can get away with snubbing the strategic shopper....that line of thinking WILL backfire. We are in for at least 5 more years of recession. The super couponers are going to outlast it and the deals/super couponing will become the norm for buying houshold goods. You want to stay in business? Court us!
not so super coupons and corporate
I agree that the super coupons are rarely more than a decent sale price(more exciting if there is a man q to stack). So to make them more complicated to use just so isn't worth it. I started to look at the corp report and the first thing that struck me was the map that showed store locations. When you see Illinois as their only holding in the midwest it starts to make a little more sense. They are so far removed from our market and our values. It is loud and clear in every one of these a**backwards decisions. If you check their couponing policy for their east coast stores it is just as muddled(they double for that market).
Is this true??
Went to Dom's on friday and tried to use two coupons; one was for a $.99 item and had a $.60 off coupon. Cashier would not except because of a new policy not accepting on more then 50% of the cost of the item. Also had an Ensure coupon for "up to $1.85" but because the item was $1.69 I would get it free. He said Dom's new policy also says no "free" items. I walked out.
This was the Dom's in Oswego. At Jewel yesterday the cashier made a comment about their corportate re-writing the coupon policy to "derail all you couponers getting things for nothing"
Any truth to this??
Printables
are supposed to be the only thing the 50% limit is applied to, not newspaper coupons. Unless they changed that as well?
BOYCOTT???
WTF Does this mean I can't go into the store anymore? That hurts because I really love peeing in aisle 4!
You mean to tell me...
That people went to Dominick's for another reason?
Sounds like you're making an
Sounds like you're making an improvement over there. Hopefully you're not marking territory.
I think that's the draw
of Dom's. LOL
Gross
Ok, that's really gross!
(But I did laugh.)
Boycott
Since I posted about boycotting Dominick's I feel I have to address it. I mean boycott as in the following:
I wouldn't buy anything from Dominick's with or without a coupon. Even if it was "free". The reason for this is simple. By shopping at Dominick's I feel it condones their behavior, and their policies. I condone neither. Dominick's is aware of the behavior of their employees, who treat us, as their customers like criminals, when in fact we are redeeming legitimate coupons in conjunction with an advertised sale. By continuing to shop there, in my mind it says "that's ok, as long as I can get a good deal or two, I'll continue to let you treat me that way". It's like a bad relationship.
While I am not proposing an organized, sign carrying, chant singing boycott, what I am saying is that I will allow my absence and the absence of my shopping dollars speak for themselves.
And yet...
... if they could get their act together, having a third major grocer in Chicagoland that IS an option for us to shop at weekly benefits us all -- competition is good for the market. And IF a Dom's trip goes well, it can be good.
(Says the girl who did a Dominick's run today for the $25 P&G Catalina run which, after coupons, cost me $11.48 and I got a $10 Cat back. Though the cashier did deny me using three $1 coupons on three .89 items that weren't part of the Cat, so I took them off my transaction. Still got to work out that overage-or-adjusting-down thing...)
Who's the third? (or the second) major grocer?
Jewel, of course would be first. I would think Dom's would be second. Who else? (Aldi, Meijer, Woodman's, Butera...???)
Meijer
There are many candidates for third, but I was referring to the 3 major stores I focus on each week - Jewel, Doms and Meijer.
I have to ask....and completely off the topic
I am only a few weeks into SUPERcouponing and by the way I LOVE it, but if you do not mind me asking how did you do this one????
Scenarios
I'll have lots of scenarios for the P&G Cat deal in the morning, but here's a preview.
This thread is making me laugh.....
Just thought I would share that.
So perhaps Dominick's was listening...
they heard the details about how we get the deals, and now they are going to fix that, too. Good for them :)
Yeah, good one.
Like that Leonardo DiCaprio/Tom Hanks movie. Use the best forger to assist law enforcement in putting in place measures to stop forging. Dom's is using the best couponers to tell them how it's done so they can implement measures to completely eliminate couponing at their stores.
Well, my coupons are attached to my hip. If they aren't welcome ... neither am I.
Very funny
Funny, yes, but it should be stated again that despite "getting the deals," we're not doing anything wrong. We aren't using coupons illegitimately. We're not passing fraudulent coupons. We're just saving significantly on our groceries, which we LOVE. And "getting the deals" is definitely a big factor in whether I'll return to the store.
Yes
You are right. I did not mean to imply that we are doing anything wrong. But the bottom line is that a great many of us are made to FEEL like we are doing something wrong when we go to Dominick's, so if they are trying to avoid people getting good deals at their store, then their mission has pretty much been accomplished.